>> really, the families have played a fundamental part in all of this, tom, because in the first 17 days, those miners were lost, feared dead, had no contact with the outside world. and at that point, the families came up to the mine head. they camped out here, they established a camp which they since call "camp hope." they refuse to leave and, at the same time, pressured the government to continue the search, pressured the mine company and pressured the company. they said, you will not leave our miners underground dead or a alive. so, it was that pressure to find the miners that eventually turned them up alive after 17 days. now, of course, the miners, it's a close-knit community. they're talking to one another. they're sharing one another's pains. it's their own support structure, if you like, but, of course, when they got the timeline haa this could take three or four months, that this is uncharted territory, it's never been tried, well, you can see, the impatience is there.